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“…a man was sentenced to death for giving medical grade cannabis oils to patients in need.”

Malaysian Court Sentences Man to Death for Distributing Free Cannabis Oil

A man in Malaysia was sentenced to death after giving medical marijuana to patients in need.

Published 3 weeks ago on September 4, 2018 By Nick Lindsey

Malaysian Court Sentences Man to Death for Distributing Free Cannabis Oil

Malaysia remains a potentially dangerous place to engage in anything related to medical marijuana. And that includes distributing it free of charge to patients who could benefit from it. Just last week, a man was sentenced to death for giving medical grade cannabis oils to patients in need.

Death Sentence For Distributing Medical Marijuana

On August 30, a judge in Malaysia sentenced Muhammad Lukman Bin Mohamad to death. The sentence came after the judge found Lukman guilty of breaking the country’s notoriously strict anti-cannabis laws.

According to local news sources in Malaysia, Lukman was arrested when authorities discovered just over three liters of cannabis oil. Additionally, he was found in possession of 279 grams of compressed cannabis.

All of this occurred in December 2015. Now, nearly three years after being arrested, Lukman received his sentence. Specifically, he was found guilty of breaking Malaysia’s Dangerous Drugs Act of 1952.

This law states: “No person shall, on his own behalf or on behalf of any other person . . . traffic in a dangerous drug.” Further, the law stipulates: “Any person . . . guilty of an offence against this Act shall be punished on conviction with death.”

Given that cannabis remains an illegal substance in Malaysia, the judge ruled that this law applied to Lukman’s case. Lukman is now being held in Kajang Prison. At this time, sources indicate that he plans to appeal the decision in the country’s Court of Appeal.

Guilty for Giving Medical Marijuana to Patients

Throughout Lukman’s case, his defense argued that his acts did not constitute drug trafficking. In particular, they focused on the fact that he was not distributing recreational drugs. Instead, defense lawyers argued, Lukman was distributing medicine to patients who might not otherwise be able to get it.

Further, the defense pointed out that Lukman was not making a profit. Lukman was in fact working in cooperation with an organization that educates the public on issues related to medical marijuana.

Lukman was not profiting from his distribution, either, since patients who could not afford the product were given it for free. In addition to all this, Lukman and his defense team pointed to the growing body of scientific evidence supporting the medical use of cannabis.

Despite all this, the prosecutors maintained that Lukman still broke the country’s laws prohibiting all forms of marijuana. They also claimed that although marijuana is increasingly accepted throughout the world, there is nothing in Malyasian law that allows for the medical use of cannabis.

One Of The World’s Worst Anti-Cannabis Countries

Malaysia has long had some of the world’s most heavy handed anti-cannabis laws. Most obviously, this reputation comes from the fact that a person can still be sentenced to death for breaking certain drug laws.

But Malaysia isn’t the only country where a person can be sentenced to death for possessing, distributing, or consuming cannabis. In fact, there are still a surprisingly large number of countries throughout the world with these types of laws in the books.

Along with Malaysia, this list includes countries like China, Egypt, Singapore, Myanmar, Philippines, Nigeria, and several others.

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CONCLUSION:

If it can happen there, it can happen here!

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Marijuana Arrests Are Increasing Despite Legalization, New FBI Data Shows

Tom Angell Contributor i  Policy  

Marijuana arrests are rising in the U.S., even as more states legalize cannabis.

There is now an average of one marijuana bust roughly every 48 seconds, according to a new FBI report released on Monday.

The increase in marijuana arrests—659,700 in 2017, compared to 653,249 in 2016—is driven by enforcement against people merely possessing the drug as opposed to selling or growing it, the data shows.

Last year, there were 599,282 marijuana possession arrests in the country, up from 587,516 in 2016. Meanwhile, busts for cannabis sales and manufacturing dropped, from 65,734 in 2016 to 60,418 in 2017.

The increase in cannabis possession arrests comes despite the fact that four additional states legalized marijuana on Election Day 2016.

While among those states, legal recreational sales were only in effect in Nevada by the end of 2017, the prohibition on possession for adults was lifted soon after the successful votes there as well as in California, Maine and Massachusetts.

“At a time when more than 100 deaths per day are caused by opioid overdoses, it is foolish to focus our limited law enforcement resources on a drug that has caused literally zero,” Don Murphy, federal policies director for the Marijuana Policy Project said in an interview.

“Actions by law enforcement run counter to both public support and basic morality,” added NORML Political Director Justin Strekal. “In a day and age where twenty percent of the population lives in states which have legalized and nearly every state has some legal protections for medical cannabis or its extract, the time for lawmakers to end this senseless and cruel prohibition that ruins lives.”

Overall, marijuana arrests made up 40.4% of the nation’s 1,632,921 drug arrests in 2017.

Drug arrests as a whole also increased last year, up from 1,572,579 in 2016.

There is now a drug bust every 19 seconds in the U.S.

I’m a 15-year veteran of the cannabis law reform movement, and I know where to look to spot the most interesting legalization developments. I’m the editor of the cannabis news site Marijuana Moment, and I founded the nonprofit Marijuana Majority. Follow me on Twitter to s…

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NOVA SCOTIA CANADA: Once again it seems that you can’t grow Cannabis and treat licensed patients, even if Cannabis is “legal”…

NOVA SCOTIA CANADA:  Once again it seems that you can’t grow Cannabis and treat licensed  patients, even if Cannabis is “legal”.

At approximately 10:30am on September 5th, Rev. Daren McCormick and Rev. Kevin James were visited by the RCMP at which time they proceeded to search their property located in Loch Broom Nova Scotia Canada, where they were growing Cannabis for            Patients.  Rev. Kevin James explained to RCMP that they were licensed plants and who they belonged to.  The RCMP produced no warrant yet they proceeded to search both outside and inside their home.

They were  both incarcerated by the RCMP for growing, and trafficking Cannabis.  They both remained incarcerated for 24 hours before being released.  Rev. Kevin James was denied medication for seizures during the stay.

Over 1000 plants were taken by the RCMP as well as a small indoor  grow. Personal items of the two men were taken in the search such as legal documents, witness lists and an antique Bow that hung above the fireplace belonging to Daren’s Grandfather, a family     heirloom dating back to 1915 that yielded no threat to anyone.

The garden of Cannabis is estimated to be worth well over a million dollars plus and it has been destroyed.  You can’t give back a plant that was pulled from the ground in its natural growing state!

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WE OPERATE UNDER CANNATHEISM and our congregational collective is via the Church of the Universe: the Universe is our Church

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Above:  The Global Incident Map publishes the bust.

Pictou RCMP dismantle grow-op, seize marijuana in Loch Broom

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Above:  Rev. Kevin James Service Dog “Molly” was not charged in the raid!

He has also posted these status updates on Facebook concerning the events:

FROM ONE HONORABLE MAN TO ANOTHER

FOR POSTING US ON THIS MAP 🙂 DOES THIS MEAN WE MADE IT TO THE BIG BOY LIST LOL

FACEBOOK LAND OF CANNABIS ACTIVISTS AND OIL MAKERS AND HEALERS…

“Officers of the court have no immunity, when violating a constitutional right, for they are deemed to know the law”

I just read the search warrant they used to destroy the plants.

Daren Mccormick has 4 new cannabis charges, and i have 5 new charges… in last 10 days… heads up…

AFTER HAVING BEEN CONTACTED BY SEVERAL PATIENTS WE TENDED GARDENS FOR FROM ACROSS CANADA..

Q. If a patient revokes the DG status of a grower and they get caught growing anyway… say 850 plants x 4 crops a year and do it for 4 years or so…. and the patient receives zero from their garden… thats diversion…

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TKP Thorne Peters Sits In The ‘Hole’, Over Five Months After His Arrest…

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#NOMENSREA #IAMTHELAW      “When we all say it we all go free”.

Thorne Peters has authored nine books, and is working on the tenth one from the Shelby County penal farm in Memphis, TN.,  He is a  songwriter, singer,  and human rights activist.   But it seems that they can offer him neither pen nor paper in order to work on his case nor to write his book.

Thorne Peters currently sits in “the hole” at the Memphis penal farm as he fights for everyone’s rights, #NOMENSREA against Cannabis Prohibition.

Thorne Peters entered the public eye in 2009, when he made local news for operating a “420” friendly nightclub in Millington. The self-proclaimed “Poet Laureate of Planet Earth” was an easy target for local media when he turned down a guilty plea and decided to do 19 months in jail while waiting to go to trial  LINK

Below is the latest message from TKP Thorne Peters from the Penal Farm in Memphis Tennessee.  Please listen to his message, and then write him a card or letter (address below), and let him know you are thinking of him, as well as all the others who have been unjustly caught up in the drug war, most notably the war on Cannabis!

Please listen to entire video!

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NEXT:

Please call AMY WEIRICH; D.A., Memphis, TN (901) 222-1300 and say “Try THE KINGPIN! There is NO MENS REA!”

And also call the Tennessee Governor at (615) 741-2001 and say “investigate THE KINGPIN conspiracy… #NOMENSREA

 THEN:

Visit ThornePeters.com and click the ‘420 NITE CLUB BUST’ and ‘CONSPIRACY’ banners to get the story on the now TEN YEAR CONSPIRACY against THE KINGPIN THORNE PETERS that lead to this moment.

And last but not least, please DONATE to the “Freedom Fund”!

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Above:  Thorne Peters, The Kingpin, speaks at Overton Park before going to 201 Poplar, Memphis City Jail and Courthouse, to smoke pot on the steps and go to jail at 4:20pm on 04/20/2010. LINK

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Above:  Link to TKP Thorne Peters YOUTUBE Channel.

Please follow Linda Harrah on Facebook for updates!

Please write to TKP Thorne Peters at this address:

Shelby County Correctional Center

RNI# 389985

1045 Mullins Station Road

Memphis, TN  38134

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Sessions Says States Are Free To Legalize Marijuana, But DOJ Can Enforce Federal Law

July 26, 2018 By Tom Angell

States are free to legalize marijuana, U.S. Attorney General Jeff Sessions said on Thursday, but his department plans to continue enforcing federal prohibition anyway.

“Personally my view is that the American republic will not be better if there are marijuana sales on every street corner,” Sessions said in response to a reporter’s question. “But states have a right to set their own laws and will do so.”

Sessions, speaking at a press conference in Boston about unrelated fraud prosecutions, said that when it comes to marijuana, “we’ll enforce the federal law.”

“The federal law remains the law of the United States.”

See video of Sessions’s new marijuana comments below, courtesy of MassLive:  (LINK)

A growing number of states are moving to legalize marijuana for recreational or medical use.

But while federal cannabis prohibition remains on the books for now, momentum for reform is gaining traction in Congress.

Last month, President Trump voiced support for bipartisan legislation that would let states enact their own marijuana policies without federal interference.

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Arizona court: Hashish not included in medical marijuana law

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An Arizona court has ruled that medical marijuana patients can still face arrest when in possession of hashish because it isn’t mentioned or included by name in a voter-approved pot initiative passed in 2010.

The Arizona Court of Appeals handed down the decision Tuesday in the case of Rodney Jones, a cardholder in the state’s medical marijuana program who was arrested in March 2013 at a Prescott hotel and indicted on a count each of cannabis possession and drug paraphernalia possession.

Police said at the time they had found Jones had 0.05 ounces of hashish in a jar, according to the appeals court ruling. After spending a year in jail, Jones waived his right to a jury trial in the case. He was later convicted and sentenced to more than two years in prison with credit for time served.

In his appeal, Jones had sought to have his conviction and sentence overturned by the court. But two of the judges on the three-member appeals court panel rejected his request, saying that the state’s medical marijuana act approved in 2010 “is silent” on hashish.

“If the drafters wanted to immunize the possession of hashish they should have said so,” the ruling said. “We cannot conclude that Arizona voters intended to do so.”

Hashish is a resin extracted from cannabis plants, and it is often used in oils and other medical marijuana products that are a part of the nation’s burgeoning, multibillion pot market.

The ruling had found that hashish is recognized under state law as a narcotic distinct from marijuana by the Legislature because of its potency levels.

Jones’ attorney did not immediately return a call requesting comment Wednesday.

Sarah Mayhew, who represented the Arizona Attorneys for Criminal Justice in supporting Jones in the lawsuit, said the parties would appeal the case to the Arizona Supreme Court.

“There are several things in this ruling that are just flat-out wrong,” said Mayhew, also an attorney in the Pima County Public Defender’s office.

She said the court had sought to apply marijuana and cannabis definitions in the state’s criminal code to the language drafted by medical marijuana advocates in the 2010 ballot initiative.

Voters had approved the medical marijuana act in order to provide broad protections to people seeking to access pot for medicinal reasons, she said.

By taking this step, the court narrowed the intent of the voters, Mayhew argued.

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Canadians Who Smoke Legal Weed Could Be Banned From U.S. For Life

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By Jason Lemon On 6/26/18

Marijuana will be legal for recreational use in Canada on October 17, but despite legalization, Canadians who admit using cannabis could be banned permanently from entering the U.S.

“It’s basically black and white—if you admit to a U.S. border officer at a U.S. port of entry that you’ve smoked marijuana in the past, whether it’s in Canada or the U.S., you will be barred entry for life to the United States,”

immigration lawyer Len Saunders told CTV News on Tuesday.

Saunders said he believes U.S. border agents will begin asking the question more frequently once Canada’s new marijuana legislation is implemented later this year. However, Canadians also have the right not to answer the question, he said. Although the questioned individual may be denied entry to the U.S. after refusing to answer, it will only be for that day and not a permanent ban, Saunders explained.

Prior to Ottawa’s decision to legalize recreational cannabis last week, conservative Canadian lawmakers met with U.S. Attorney General Jeff Sessions. According to reports, Sessions warned the elected officials that Canadians could face problems at the U.S. border if legalization moved forward.

Despite the fact that nine states and the nation’s capital, Washington D.C., have legalized recreational marijuana—and 29 states have legalized it for medical purposes—cannabis remains completely illegal under U.S. federal law. While the administration of former President Barack Obama implemented guidelines against prosecuting marijuana businesses that were legal on the state level, Sessions has taken a tougher stance.

The Canadian government has warned citizens on its website that legal cannabis use could still cause problems when traveling abroad. “Cannabis is illegal in most countries,” the website said. “Previous use of cannabis, or any other substance prohibited by local law, could result in a traveler being denied entry to their destination country.”

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Banned Canadians could still apply for temporary waivers to visit the U.S., according to Saunders. But their visa-free travel access would forever be revoked under current immigration laws.

Commenting on Canada’s decision to legalize marijuana, Hannah Hetzer, senior international policy manager at Drug Policy Alliance, told Newsweek it would be bizarre for the U.S. federal government to take a strong stand against the move.

“It would be very hypocritical for the U.S. federal government to come out staunchly against Canada’s legalization and be incredibly vocal about it,” Hetzer said, “because it puts the U.S. government in an uncomfortable position, where it’s still illegal on the federal level [but legal for recreation and medical use in many states].”

Beyond the legal disconnect in the U.S., the majority of Americans have tried marijuana at some point in their lives, according to polls. A 2017 poll by Marist and Yahoo News found that 52 percent of Americans over the age of 18 have used cannabis in the past. Additionally, 44 percent admitted that they continue to use the drug. Comparatively, statistics in Canada show that only 49.4 percent of men and 35.8 percent of women admit to having tried pot.

Just over 60 percent of Americans support legalized recreational marijuana, according to a January poll by Pew Research. Likewise, there is growing bipartisan political support for decriminalization and legalization.

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Cases against NJ Weedman up in smoke. Prosecutors cite changing views of marijuana

Updated 9:11 AM; Posted Jun 6, 3:15 PM

Ed "NJ Weedman" Forchion reacts to someone who beeped their horn in support as he talked in front of his shuttered restaurant Friday, May 25, 2018 in Trenton, a day after he was acquitted of witness tampering and was released from jail. (Kevin Shea | For NJ.com)

Above:  Ed “NJ Weedman” Forchion reacts to someone who beeped their horn in support as he talked in front of his shuttered restaurant Friday, May 25, 2018 in Trenton, a day after he was acquitted of witness tampering and was released from jail. (Kevin Shea | For NJ.com)

By Paige Gross   pgross@njadvancemedia.com,   For NJ.com

The Mercer County Prosecutor’s Office announced Wednesday it will be dropping most of the remaining drug and related charges against Edward “NJ Weedman” stemming from a 2016 raid on his Trenton restaurant.

What is not dismissed will be downgraded to municipal court, where jail time is unlikely.

But Forchion’s not seeing this as all good news. 

Late last month, Forchion was found not guilty by a jury on third-degree witness tampering charges – a case that also grew from the drug raid.

The marijuana activist spent about 15 months detained in the Mercer County jail during two trials, and was set free hours after he was acquitted.

The prosecutor’s office said the decision to not move forward in prosecuting Forchion came after considering the shift in climate of marijuana legislation in New Jersey.

“They’re about 10 years too late,” Forchion said of a change in public opinion of marijuana. 

The office also considered the changes in law regarding the state’s bail reform – an issue Forchion railed against during his time in jail.

“I’m half-way happy and half-way mad,” he said Wednesday night. “Now the state just drops the charges, and I’ve already spent 16 months in jail. I had 42 charges against me total. It was a campaign of terror by the police department.”

NJ Weedman spent 400-plus days in jail. Turns out he was not guilty

Can he get anything for all the time he spent locked up?

“These factors call for an adjustment in the way the office most appropriately uses its resources and assistance from other law enforcement agencies in order to prioritize detention cases such as murders, attempted murders and violent crime,” the prosecutor’s statement said.

“The fact that the defendant has served more than a year in prison while these cases were pending was also taken into consideration,” it continued.

In all, Forchion had been indicted in 2016 and 2017 and was facing 11 charges related to narcotics dealings and cyber harassment. The prosecutor’s office has dismissed most of the charges, and downgraded five to “disorderly persons offenses,” all of which will be tried in Trenton Municipal Court.

The state is currently wrestling with ideas of how to deal with the hundreds of thousands of people who have been charged with marijuana crimes. Some legislators are considering expunging low-level convictions, but aren’t yet sure of the logistics.

“After a review of the defendant’s pending cases,” the prosecutor’s office said in its statement, “We feel the downgrade and dismissal of the charges is an appropriate resolution.”

Paige Gross may be reached at pgross@njadvancemedia.com. Follow her on Twitter @By_paigegross. Find NJ.com on Facebook.

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Just Vote No on the Michigan’s Cannabis Initiative: Regulate Marijuana Like Alcohol

Just Vote No on the Michigan’s Cannabis Initiative: Regulate Marijuana Like Alcohol (November 2018)

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Bruce Cain·Wednesday, June 6, 2018

So it is June 6th, 2018, and it looks like we’ll have another awful Cannabis Initiative on the November Ballot. It is being pushed by the “Coalition to Regulate Marijuana Like Alcohol” (CRMLA). Having reviewed the language of this idiotic Initiative I simply cannot support this personally. And if there were “truth in advertising” it should really be called “Cramming Ridiculous Marijuana Laws up our Asses.” And it sucks so bad that it could probably suck the rust off of a door knob. You can read the news here:

===== Michigan pot legalization initiative dodges Republican meddling, heads to ballot Posted By Violet Ikonomova on Wed, Jun 6, 2018 https://www.metrotimes.com/news-hits/archives/2018/06/06/michigan-pot-legalization-initiative-dodges-republican-meddling-heads-to-ballot =====

You can read the full text of the “Regulate Marijuana Like Alcohol” Initiative language here:

https://www.regulatemi.org/initiative/

I’m sorry but I’ve been a Cannabis Activist for well over 50 years and a journalist and activist for over 30 years. I have known every major player in this movement — from Timothy Leary, to Jack Herer to good old John Sinclair. I have engaged in debates with Jodie Emery, Chris Conrad, Ed Rosenthal and many other activists over those decades. And I’m here to tell you: WE ARE BEING SOLD OUT. And I’m not just talking about Michigan but throughout the US, Canada, Europe. The sad fact of the matter is we have been sold out by NORML since they began in the early 90’s. And from there we got sold out by every other corporate Cannabis organization including: DPA, MPP, SSDP, LEAP (Wooldridge). And now in 2018 you see this curious phenomenon where all of these states and countries are slowly turning the screws on home growers.

I’m not saying this to boast but to simply be accurate. There is probably no one on the planet that understands drugs or drug policy any better than I do. Here are a few of my more recent essays that I would recommend:

===== The Global Marijuana March originated with International Drug Policy Day in May 1990 https://www.facebook.com/notes/bruce-cain/the-global-marijuana-march-originated-with-international-drug-policy-day-in-may-/2393282000697774/

Why the Right to Grow Your Own Medical Cannabis Must Be Protected from “Tax, Regulate and Control” State Models https://www.facebook.com/notes/bruce-cain/why-the-right-to-grow-your-own-medical-cannabis-must-be-protected-from-tax-regul/1941658819193430/

The Real Reasons that Cannabis Consumers are getting sick and why State Control is not the solution https://www.facebook.com/notes/bruce-cain/the-real-reasons-that-cannabis-consumers-are-getting-sick-and-why-state-control-/1937440196281959/

You are more than welcome to read the other 230 essay that I have written here:

https://www.facebook.com/bruce.cain.98/notes?lst=100000184321094%3A100000184321094%3A1528324382 =====

I was saying the “Regulate Marijuana Like Alcohol” Initiative really sucks as have all of the initiatives since Prop215 passed in California in 1996.

Why in the Hell would we want to treat Cannabis (e.g., Marijuana) like Alcohol which cannot be produced at home. Why not treat it like beer or wine: both of which can be produced in your home without “a card,” zoning restrictions, home inspections, fee’s and a host of other unnecessary bullshit.

So let us take a look at the “door knob” sucking “Regulate Marijuana Like Alcohol” initiative for a moment. Here is the summary of what it has to offer:

===== * Legalize the possession and sale of up to 2½ ounces of marijuana for personal, recreational use.

* Impose a 10% excise tax on marijuana sales at the retail level as well as a 6% sales tax. The estimated revenues from the taxes are at least $100 million.

* Split those revenues with 35% going to K-12 education, 35% to roads, 15% to the communities that allow marijuana businesses in their borders and 15% to counties where marijuana business are located.

* Allow communities to decide whether they’ll permit marijuana businesses.

* Restrict purchases of marijuana for recreational purposes to 2½ ounces but an individual could keep up to 10 ounces of marijuana at home.

* Allow the Department of Licensing and Regulatory Affairs (LARA), and not the politically appointed licensing board that will regulate the medical marijuana side of the market, to regulate and license marijuana businesses, ranging from growers, transporters, testers and dispensaries.

* Set up three classes of marijuana growers: up to 100, 500 and 2,000 plants =====

So here is my brief critique of “Regulate Marijuana Like Alcohol” initiative:

===== * Why is there any limit on how many ounces of Cannabis you can buy? Last I checked there is no limit on the number of cases of beer you can purchase or the number of bottles of wine you can purchase.

* Why are we allowing any tax of Cannabis when it is a medicine and no other medicines are taxed?

* Splitting the revenue is a ruse. Because we allowed the legislature to gut the 2008 initiative they are now setting up what I call “Corporate Cannabis State Monopolies.” So just as shit seems to float to the top, the profits are being taken away from small growers whose profits went directly back into the local communities. Now it will go to the State government and the rich millionaires that pushed all the small growers out of business. Oh, and you will now pay a 16% tax on all purchases which we’ve never had to pay before. Such a deal! Now the same state government, that has been persecuting consumers and growers, for the last 50 years, have decided to put the small grower out of business so they can take all the profit. So I should be overjoyed that the state has finally seen the light and has now decided to become our drug dealer? It was not even 12 years ago when our legislature was fully behind criminalizing Cannabis because it was dangerous. Hey like Cindy Lauper once said “money changes everything.”

* Why do we need regulation at all? Why do I have to have the right medical condition to use Cannabis?

* How dumb do these people think we are? =====

So then today Adam Brook, longtime Master of Ceremonies for the Hash Bash in Ann Arbor, indicated his support for the initiative. He is now selling “VOTE YES” pins in support of the initiative. I do like Adam as he had let me speak at the Hash Bash some 15 times between 1990 and 2012. So I voiced my disagreement and asked longtime activists — Kathleen Chippi (Colorado) and Timothy Locke (Abrogate Michigan) — to join the discussion. Kathleen provided some insights into what is going on in Colorado in the wake of thier “Corporate Cannabis State Monopolies.” Basically they are now going after home growers in order to maximize revenue to the state. Tim was rather succinct in his disapproval when he said “Vote Yes to Increase Arrests.” And I think they are both right.

To be clear this flew in the face of the glowing prounouncements by Adam Brook and Howard J. Wooldridge (Head of LEAP: Law Enforcement Against Prohibition). Again I like Adam. I really don’t like Wooldridge for many reasons beyond the scope of this essay. Let’s just say I wish the whole organization would go LEAP off a very high cliff.

So as the criticism of the “Regulate Marijuana Like Alcohol” initiative began to dominate the discussion: suddenly the discussion was no longer directly accessable and some of the comments had been deleted.

“Kathleen Chippi ??? did the thread comments just get deleted?”

I have no idea whether Adam really did anything to hide the discussion but a number of people did wonder where the discussion thread went. In any case this might be a good strategy for us “True Legalizers” in the future. Engage those that you disagree. Try to be nice as you make your points. Don’t engage in “trollish” behavior or insult those that you disagree.

At any rate I’m going to end this essay now and simply provide a transcript of what I could recover from the discussion that Adam initiated. But first my opinion of the “Regulate Marijuana Like Alcohol” Initiative.

Just Say NO! to the “Regulate Marijuana Like Alcohol” Initiative

Just Vote NO! for the “Regulate Marijuana Like Alcohol” Initiative in November 2018

The Legislature destroyed the 2008 Medical Marijuana Initiative in just 10 short years.

No reason to make it even worse by voting in even more regulations, more busts, more taxes etc.

Perhaps these supporters should spend more time on other thing relating to Cannabis Policy:

* Make it legal for Cannabis growers and consumers to own guns. Right now they can’t. * Stop Child Protective Services from taking children away from parents that are medicating them effectively for diseases such as epilepsy, chrons disease, parkinson’s etc.

I mean there is a lot you could be doing. Unfortunately this initiative is something we wish you were not doing.

===== Partial Transcript of Adam Brooks discussion of the “Regulate Marijuana Like Alcohol” Initiative:

Adam L Brook Marijuana will be on the Nov ballot. Get your VOTE YES pin now! $10 +$3 shipping…

Walt Williams Won’t legalization hurt some folks

Adam L Brook Yes, cops & prosecutors!

Walt Williams What about people who can’t grow being forced to get from provision center commercially grown?

Howard J. Wooldridge And current marijuana dealers will be hurt badly

wolf Neal Smith It’s going to kick big pharma and private prisons right in the wallet.

Howard J. Wooldridge William u r allowed 12 plants…that is not enuf? Willie Nelson can’t smoke that much…or u are currently an MJ grower and dealer in the black market?

William Yeah right on Adam let’s let Monsanto make some Frankenstein GMO cannabis that kills everybody who smokes it just like tobacco.

Ron Klug Howard J. Wooldridge You trying to dry snitch em out?

William Ron Klug that wouldn’t surprise me one damn bit. He used to be a cop. You know what they say about old dogs and new tricks right?

Kathleen Chippi Howard J. Wooldridge who the fuck are any of you to decide how many non-toxic plants a person can have or needs? Not sure why people don’t see the FAKE ‘legalization” rules/fee’s/prohibitions are BASED ON THE SAME LIES, PREJUDICE AND GREED as 1937 Reefer Madness???

William When I joined this movement it was about growing your own medicine. Now everyone wants big business to make their medicine for them because they’ve been told by the TV to ask your doctor about every goddamn pill under the fucking sun. What the fuck are your brains made out of Jell-O or what?

Adam L Brook When you joined our movement you should have asked more questions…… I never heard about medical until long after the concept of a PRA (Personal Rights Amendment) was not able to get the signatures to get on the ballot….. and when medical was proposed I never said it was anything more than a foot in the door. THIS is about moving the ball forward and changing attitudes…..we have a long way to go….. and you can think the Black Market is racist (which I agree and that’s why I use the term, as people should never forget) but it has been perfected over the last 80+ years, 40 of which war was declared against us, and will always be here for those who can’t or won’t deal with the “system”…I for one think that once we can get another 10years down the road the laws won’t matter as the old guard will have died off and the new generation doesn’t care about a safe substance like marijuana (another racist term I use in homage to my brown brothers and vipers of the past)……

No reason to be a keyboard warrior my old friend…. you attack the wrong side of this battle…. go after the pigs or the assholes in the legislature, but attacking fellow activists only hurts the progress we are making….

William Adam L Brook I’m not attacking other activists. I’m attacking sellouts.

Adam L Brook William not one of these people has sold out. To do that you have to have changed your opinion in exchange for something…..they have believed in this from the get…of course lots of polling was done in order for many of these folk to feel comfortable in putting this forward…..had we done the polling back in the PRA days we would not have wasted our time… Believe it or not but this was a winner before the first signature was collected…..again its about changing attitudes…..its one of the few things that keeps me fighting to stay alive…I hope to live long enough to see the laws the way I want them….

William Adam L Brook I was involved in the movement 12 years before PRA. I personally never felt the need to go to Hash Bash until Schmid decided to use Hash Bash as a kickoff event. I just want to be left alone to grow my own but with these greedy motherfuckers passing stupid laws I know eventually they’re going to come after my garden, and when they do I’ll look for Tom and Rollie on the other side and tell them you said hi.

Adam L Brook William please do. I miss the fellas dearly…. let them know I kept my promise and we are moving the ball forward….matter of fact being gay is no longer an issue (they’d be much more comfortable in public these days) and hopefully like I said before growing /smoking marijuana will not be an issue once the laws making weed illegal change to a regulated system…I can remember my father making wine and not giving a shit that he made 500, which was twice the legal limit, as no one cared…. the police chief didn’t accept his case of wine and then investigate how much was being made, he said thanks and when and drank his wine….

Unfortunately I could go on and on and I know I won’t change you mind, but maybe your attitude will change once you see no one is coming for your garden…

William Of course they’re going to come for my garden. How else are they going to corner the market? Let’s face it anybody can grow the stuff so why would anybody need to buy it?

Adam L Brook William I can’t grow it…I can barely stand…. had I not become “Mr. Hash Bash” with a reputation that causes people to help me out I would be force to the commercial market…. in the last 10 years, ok I was locked up for 2, so in 8 years I have never purchased over the counter weed in this state/country…. (many many times in Amsterdam, but that’s a quasi illegal market, so I felt comfortable). The commercial market has its place in society…..stop the fear mongering… I don’t see anyone coming for personal grows…..again its about the old guard dieing off and the attitudes changing…. in the last election in California there were first time voters who had had legal medical their whole lives, so voting yes on rec was a simple yes vote….. mind you it took cali 20 years, while Michigan will do it in half that time…

William Adam L Brook all you have to do is look at how the medical marijuana law got butchered by the legislature to know that as soon as recreational gets passed they’re going to butcher it too. The first thing that will be hacked out is personal cultivation.

Adam L Brook William they couldn’t get a majority to pass it themselves…. you give them a lot of credit that they can get ⅔ to make changes….. as for them changing the medical law that was done at the behest of Law Enforcement, who by now has seen the writing on the wall and has started to change their attitudes…. trust me, I have been intimately involved with them over the last 10 years and in the last two have been treated differently with each encounter…. Twice had weed handed back to me and sent on my way, once even being allowed to continue on my way when I admittedly should have been arrested, after being recognized as Adam L Brook, weed activist.

Times are a’changin as the great poet once said.

William The times might be changing, but time is a pendulum. History always repeats itself. The legislature will fuck with recreational use laws just like they fucked with medical marijuana laws and stoners and patients alike will suffer.

William Aron Kozin I happen to be disabled. I don’t work. I have a lot of time on my hands. I grow my own and I don’t grow any to sell. If I have extra I will give it away to somebody who needs it. I don’t believe in the commercialization of cannabis. It is a plant that anybody can grow anywhere on the planet except the the North and South Poles. It is ridiculous to think that you can get rich but everybody’s treating this legalization movement like a gold rush.

William Bob Harris personally I ignore arbitrary bullshit like the number of plants I can grow. The older I get the more I’m going to need. For me edibles work better and last longer than smoking. I raise rabbits and use their manure for fertilizer and butcher them for meat. I use a modified version of the beef jerky marinade recipe at Infusedeats.com with my rabbit meat.

William Joe Willey once they shut down home growers they can charge any price they want and get away with it. Why do you think they have an arbitrary plant limit? Nobody believes in a free market anymore.

William Joe Willey the legalizers are proposing a 12 plant limit just like we’ve got under medical marijuana. I don’t obey that law and I sure as hell am not going to obey some fascist law written to help the rich get richer.

Bruce Cain I would not implicate you Adam but you know damn well we have been infiltrated by “sell outs” — those that could give a damn about our right to grow our own — at least as early as 2000. We sat on many of the same committees with Matt Able, Tim Beck, Kevin Zeese who were on the “Tax, Regulate and Control” bandwagon as early as 2000.

For me there have only been 2 important goals since I first started smoking Cannabis in 1968:

* The inalienable right to grow our own: no taxes, inspections, zoning laws, cards.

* A framework whereby the market was dependent on small growers supplying the dispensaries or simply selling to friends and relatives.

I think it insane to be happy with where things are at the moment. Not blaming you. But it is what it is. And it ain’t good.

The Global Marijuana March originated with International Drug Policy Day in May 1990.

https://www.facebook.com/notes/bruce-cain/the-global-marijuana-march-originated-with-international-drug-policy-day-in-may-/2393282000697774/

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William Bruce Cain copying and pasting your comments all over the thread is just annoying. Once is enough.

Kathleen Chippi Adam L Brook Being gay didn’t violate CRIMINAL federal law.

Bruce Cain Kathleen Chippi Yep being gay does not violate criminal federal law but smoking/growing Marijuana still does. Can’t own a gun. CPS takes your kid because you find Cannabis helps with their epilepsy.

Perhaps the moral of this story is that, as long as you are taking it up the ass — figuratively or literally — the government will leave you alone.

But if you begin to complain about taking it up the ass — by the government — expect some problems. LOL

William Y’all are giving your money to criminals if you go to that damn Cannabis Cup. If you see any people from High Times magazine there tell them to give Steven Hager his pension already. I’m boycotting the cup until he gets what he deserves.

Adam Rzepecki Don’t stop with just one hole in your head….buy them all David Beckett. Anyways Im going to go smoke some GMO with Monsanto. Also I am asking anyone I know that’s “cool” for a free ticket to high times, because I don’t support crooks but really want to go. Cool people PM me its my bucket list to meet the great “whacka flocka”

Bruce Cain I would not implicate you Adam but you know damn well we have been infiltrated by “sell outs” — those that could give a damn about our right to grow our own — at least as early as 2000. We sat on many of the same committees with Matt Able, Tim Beck, Kevin Zeese who were on the “Tax, Regulate and Control” bandwagon as early as 2000.

For me there have only been 2 important goals since I first started smoking Cannabis in 1968:

* The inalienable right to grow our own: no taxes, inspections, zoning laws, cards.

* A framework whereby the market was dependent on small growers supplying the dispensaries or simply selling to friends and relatives.

I think it insane to be happy with where things are at the moment. Not blaming you. But it is what it is. And it ain’t good.

Bruce Cain The refrain “If you don’t know where you’re going, any road’ll take you there” was essentially a paraphrase of an exchange between Alice and the Cheshire Cat in Chapter 6 of Lewis Carroll’s Alice’s Adventures in Wonderland:

“Would you tell me, please, which way I ought to go from here?”

“That depends a good deal on where you want to get to,” said the Cat.

“I don’t much care where—” said Alice.

“Then it doesn’t matter which way you go,” said the Cat.

“—so long as I get SOMEWHERE,” Alice added as an explanation.

“Oh, you’re sure to do that,” said the Cat, “if you only walk long enough.”

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Any_Road

Bruce Cain I’m tinkering with the idea of getting involved in this mess once again. LOL.

So at the moment the only thing I’d be motivated to do is debate ANYONE that thinks we are on the right path with these “Corporate Cannabis State Monopolies.” The fact is there are not many willing to debate this issue with me: especially if they disagree in our right to grow our own under a framework of “True Legalization:” no taxes, zoning, inspections cards etc.

I’ve challenged a number of people lately . . but no takers. Time for Hemp would be a great podcast to have such a debate but I was banned from that around 2009 when I helped the folk in CA defeat Prop19: the first “Tax, Regulate and Control” initiative. I debated Chris Conrad, Jodie Emery and a few others. Casper (Time for Hemp) was told he’d loose his show if they let me on again. There must be a reason for that. LOL

But I’m here. I’m straight. And I’m just waiting for someone to take the bait.

I met with the Senior Editor of Metro Times 8 weeks ago for an article on my view of the Cannabis Movement. Well its been 8 weeks. LOL. He indicated that he was still behind but is still going to publish the article on my views and activism in the Cannabis movement. I’ll believe it if/when I see it. LOL

William Don’t even use the L word. The fascists have corrupted it too much with their greed. They have indoctrinated everybody to believe that legalization means that it will be sold like cigarettes and alcohol. You don’t get rid of prohibition by burying it under more bad laws. You get rid of it by repealing the law that created it in the first place.

Bruce Cain I really don’t care what word is used: Legalization, Re-Legalization, Abrogate, etc. But I well understand your point. What is really important is how we structure the “final solution.” And I think I’ve always made that pretty clear:

* No Cards

* No Inspections

* No Government oversight.

* No licences.

* etc.

Once again . . .

For me there have only been 2 important goals since I first started smoking Cannabis in 1968:

* The inalienable right to grow our own: no taxes, inspections, zoning laws, cards.

* A framework whereby the market was dependent on small growers supplying the dispensaries or simply selling to friends and relatives.

Kathleen Chippi The L word is the successful Re-Branding of the same lies, prejudice and greed as 1937 Reefer Madness/Prohibition. No science, sanity or humanity involved, 80 plus years later.

William Kathleen Chippi like I’ve always said prohibition started with a tax law. What makes them think another tax law is going to end prohibition?

Kathleen Chippi The (Unconstitutional) 12 plant limits passed in CO (17 years after no limits for MMJ) and now what do we have-loss of our 4th Amendment-unwarranted house searches based on basically any complaint about the (constitutional) smell of ‘pot’ and loss of the 5th Amendment with attempting to make people have house inspections by the government and pay for a permit!! to grow even ONE non-toxic plant in some counties. Out of control government/over regulation and no accountability….just like the feds….FUCK FAKE ‘legalization’/”like alcohol”/”tax and regulate” to hell.

Bruce Cain I’m so glad that Kathleen joined this discussion from the great state of CO. I know Adam you really don’t like to get into the politics of this too deeply. I also know you to be one of the best informed activists in the movement. In any case I encourage my MI activists to go to her FB page and simply read about all the bullshit going down in CO. Why? Because it is coming here within the year. With a vengeance. That’s why. LOL

Kathleen Chippi Yeah, Bruce it’s a shame people don’t realize that what THEY promise is the opposite of what you get. CO is witnessing the demise of 2 Constitutional Amendments that legally cannot be altered w/o a vote of “we the people”. Home grow after home grow being raided because some new neighbor who moved here complains about the LAWFUL smell of cannabis or some old neighbor who hates you just calling to ‘report’. Wait until the $1,000 dollar a day fines (per plant) start being ‘enforced’. Never thought I would dream the good old days of straight up prohibition. Now the fools who buy the pesticide/mold ridden state licensed weed put millions into funding (un-constitutional) home grow busts and DARE like propaganda–something we rarely read about is now a daily thing and the call it “legalization”.

Kathleen Chippi imho, states that have not fake legalized (ADDED 1,200 plus pages of new pot PROHIBITIONS) will be in a better position IF the Feds ever repeal prohibition-because you will start with a blank slate–states like CO now have to fund/repeal dozens upon dozens of what where un-necessary PROHIBITIONS….

William A lot of commercial growers are using myclobutanil to combat fungus. It’s safe to use on edible plants but it turns into hydrogen cyanide as it combusts. If you smoke cannabis treated with a fungicide that contains myclobutanil you are inhaling hydrogen cyanide.

Bruce Cain How did the discussion thread get reduced to a photo. LOL. Did you do that Adam? Or did it JUST happen. LOL.

At any rate great discussion. And I do agree with Kathleen: on the whole these initiatives have actually made it worse. If you want to see how it has gone downhill just look at the annual arrests from the 60’s till today. Let’s see if I can find that. At any rate this is not what I would call progress: more like an incremental journey straight to Hell. LOL

http://marijuana-arrests.com/images/1965-2012-marijuana-arrests-chart.jpg

Bruce Cain Oops nothing to read about here. LOL

Kathleen Chippi ??? did the thread comments just get deleted?

Bruce Cain I’m not sure what just happened. “Somehow” you now have to click on the “Cannabis – Vote Yes” pendant a few times and NOW the comments appear to the right of the picture. Did you do that Adam or did it just happen magically. LOL. Could it be you don’t like the direction the discussion went? Or was it magic!

Bruce Cain Let me just say this Adam. It is very disappointing that — because you didn’t like the direction of the discussion — you would basically delete the discussion or make nearly impossible to access. It makes you appear like so many of these idiotic Snowflakes that can’t handle an honest debate. And by the way I would not vote for this piece of shit excuse for a Marijuana Initiative. Either way we loose: whether the State Legislature passes their own bullshit or if this pile of smoldering crap ends up on the ballot. I guess your just showing you True Colors. LOL. Let me know if you did this or is was merely FB Magic. Frankly this has never happened on any discussion I initiated so I’m assuming that you censored it.

Timothy Locke of Abrogate Michigan June 6 at 9:20pm Vote Yes to Increase Arrests. =====

SOURCE LINK

TKP Thorne Peters, Day 39 of 39 Months–For Cannabis? #NoMensRea

He was sentenced to 36 months 100% time and 1 yr 30% time … so 39 months.
Actus Reus Non Facit Reum Nisi Mens Sit Rea

For the act to be guilty, the mind must be guilty, for the mind to be guilty, the act must be criminal.

NO MENS REA FULLY FREE

Above:  A new book will be coming soon from TKP Thorne Peters!

Coming up on day 40, incarcerated in a Shelby County Tennessee Jail, Thorne Peters is still holding strong for “No Mens Rea”.  By not taking a plea deal and taking his innocence to a jury of his peers, he ended up serving time in a  prison system which has already shown that it is not suitable for humans, or beasts for that matter.

But someone has to do it…

Someone, actually many people, have to bear the burden in order to change the world.  But this person, Thorne Peters, knows how to speak up and write about the injustices that are being inflicted, right now,  against so many innocent people.  He is not afraid to confront them and has proven this over and over, as he sits in a cell in a Memphis Jail.  One thing is for sure, when he walks out of prison, we will be one step closer to repeal of prohibition!  Because he took the time and the torment of fighting the system all the way through to the end.

No one should ever go to jail for a plant! #NoMensRea

While speaking with Lady L today via Messenger I asked her to tell me the most important points to date that she wishes to be known and this was her reply:

WHY is there an eight year conspiracy documented at his website, that THEY, THE AUTHORITIES, REFUSE TO ACKNOWLEDGE…. EVEN though there is dead band handed in evidence of their own corruption given as evidence against TKP that turn out to be           perjured, falsified etc.????  Go to thornepeters.com, and on the front page click on conspiracy….

It goes back for years. No one in power will address it even though it has been handed in to every judge in his trial since Carolyn Wade Blackett. The first black criminal court judge in Shelby County. Cited conflict of interest and gave his case to the next judge.                        Paula Skahan… a gay judge. lol. You can’t make this stuff up.

Finally … WHY… did it take them three years and twenty three days…. many court dates and multiple judges to take him to trial for less than a pound of pot when he said > It’s my pot I am taking YOU TO TRIAL. Why. when it went to trial did the judge NOT allow him the most basic defense to be put in on the weapon charges. Where does the P.O list your address. J Robert Carter Jr will not      allow the transcripts from trial… yet.

He violated TKP OVER AND OVER DURING TRIAL. CIVIL RIGHTS. OUR RIGHTS ARE BEING DENIED.

It is so long now they have done this the trail of bread crumbs back to DA Amy Weirich and her go to boy J Robert Carter Jr is leaving their brown skid marks all over everything to do with his trial.

Their days are numbered if it ever gets an honest officers eyes on the corruption.  Officer of the court or agency involved with this kind of corruption.


They spend their time on pot heads while the city is wracked with crime. Jim Crow enforced laws…. four to one they arrest American’s of African descent here. Adjusted for population.  For pot.

Chat Conversation End

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Below, I have input a few links from the Daily POTCAST which Lady L is continuing live on Facebook most every day.

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DAY 28

I KEEP TELLING MYSELF IT IS A MARATHON …. WHEN I WANT IT TO BE A SPRINT. I believe him when he told me he will die to bring NO MENS REA to national attention. He always does what he says he will do.  I hope it won’t come to that.  “LadyL”

PLEASE DONATE TO THE FUND!

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Please also write to TKP Thorne Peters at this address:

Shelby County Jail Memphis

201 Poplar AVE. 3-k 3-L. Memphis TN 38103

Inmate#  18107137

Please drop a card or note to him for encouragement!

(TN) Human Rights and Cannabis Activist “The King Pin” Thorne Peters Continues to Fight Shelby County Charges After Latest Arrest

Thorne Peters LIVE from Shelby County Justice Center in Memphis Tn …

FOUND GUILTY, BY JURY, of “possession of pot – that I was not in possession of…” Thorne Peters

(TN) Thorne Peters–The Trial of the Millennium Continues today

Thorne Peters and Rebecca Forbes discuss “No Mens Rae” and her charge of Cannabis possession

Futher reading…at this link

in addition…

https://deathpenaltyinfo.org/node/6691

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/08/01/magazine/she-was-convicted-of-killing-her-mother-prosecutors-withheld-the-evidence-that-would-have-freed-her.html

https://www.commercialappeal.com/story/news/courts/2018/02/16/andrew-thomas-case-amy-weirich-district-attorney-retrial-misconduct/341902002/

https://www.memphisflyer.com/FlyontheWallBlog/archives/2017/08/04/shelby-co-da-has-twitter-meltdown-internet-watches

https://www.change.org/p/tennessee-governor-recall-district-attorney-amy-weirich-from-public-office

https://mlk50.com/dear-shelby-county-district-attorney-stop-breaking-the-law-66ac1427e51

https://www.justice.gov/crt/us-v-shelby-county-jail-settlement-agreement